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Hes developed some very strong and unrealistic expectations about ways LW will change. And I think the reason for that might be that he doesnt understand depression AT ALL. What happened to the man who always knew what to say and how to make it all better? renovate the bathrooms, start an advice columnit doesnt have to be terrible. You know way better than any of us how useful this phrase will be. and exercise a few years ago. He blocks me and ignores me. Set the boundary with your boyfriend, let him say whatever he's going to say, and try not to internalize any of it. Reasonable. Ive been on both sides of the Have you eaten a food today? You might find some helpful scripts for a well-meaning partner in this Captain Awkward post: https://captainawkward.com/2011/11/05/question-130-my-partner-is-depressed-and-i-am-drowning/. Sure, its better if you are exercising and eating vegetables I guess, but if you dont thats fine youre great anyway. It sounds like hes making you miserable and hurting your recovery. (wanting to control you in not good ways), Getting angry at the depressed partner is not good. I want to challenge this. After a week or so of adjusting, you can figure out how you feel on your own. Anger is about taking, not giving. And he does this because he realizes that accounting for the emotions of other sentient beings is logical! He wants me to exercise more, eat healthier, help out more with the cleaning, and take better care of myself. Speaking of unconventional food pairings The Peanut-Butter and Bacon sandwich is a surprisingly delicious comfort-food combo (I like to toast the bread and add a dash of worcestershire sauce). But now he doesnt seem interested in getting to know them or spending time with them. When your partner stops maintaining your relationship, that spark can easily die out as dissatisfaction and resentment builds up." Here are seven gestures that your partner may stop doing if your. I might even be texting a new girl nothing that crosses the line, but maybe dipping my toes in the water. Granted, I know manipulative people who are in total denial that they are so, and are sure everything they are doing is for other peoples good (again, back to the 5-year-old Im helping!). People who get controlling about appearance are the pits. No-one can pressure him into anything nor does he pressure anyone else. Some guys want to be in a serious relationship; others dont. Incidentally, I also learned a lot about my own self-care for times when hes having an episode, so I dont get so easily sucked in. This right here: to the point that he says its the stupidest thing hes ever heard is verbal abuse. Do not wait until the stress of dealing with him makes your fingers itch for a sharp object (or whatever). But now, he doesnt suggest doing anything together anymore either. And its going to be almost impossible to dump him because youre so invested in him but you arent going to get better if he keeps breathing down your neck. Neither of us ever has to do anything because the other is doing it and expects participationonly a prior agreement (or an obvious necessity like bills, housework or cooking) confers obligation. If you are an academic assigning my posts in your courses, Id appreciate an email with a copy of the relevant syllabus/assignment for my records/CV. I went through a phase when I asked him if he was feeling depressed almost every day at a point when he was beginning to feel better. I think you are being unreasonable, he has apologized and you sending him that long message saying he's selfish was rude and uncalled for yet he apologized to you AGAIN. Then, repeat what you want him to do and make the boundary plain: I hear you, but I want to be clear: I dont want you to do that anymore., Please stop correcting me and advising me., I appreciate all the help and support youve given me, but I actually need to navigate this on my own., I dont like it when you tell me what to do., The Silent Treatment is really not cool., Youre not the boss of how I eat or exercise, and I think its going to be healthier going forward if you stop monitoring that stuff and if I stop reporting it to you as if you are my nutritionist or trainer.*, I dont need you to change me or to be right about this, I just need you to love me and trust me to do the right thing for myself., I realize I was in bad shape for a while, but as I try to get better, Id like it if you would stop monitoring all these things about me and just found a way to enjoy my company., You may be right about that, but Id still like to handle this on my own without your input., I know you want to help, but I would like to set a boundary around advice-giving. Maybe he thinks he wants you better, so acts in ways that can be seen as toward that goal, but is afraid of you being better, because then he would have no grounds to act superior to you. And sometimes, just for fun, exercise causes my body to mimic the feeling of a panic attack, and so I get inexplicably upset and frantic about normal life events! This is particularly irritating to me as walking is such good exercise! Ashlyn Cook, 25, appeared in Kalgoorlie Magistrates Court on Monday where she . Really, Im sure it is for someone. That said, your concerns are totally valid and your boyfriend is being disrespectful of you and your relationship by keeping up the constant communication with his ex. But I do also think the LW is getting quite enough You should from their boyfriend. Theyre angry with the situation, but love & respect their partner. Focusing on changing someone allows wounds to fester. Men who are attracted to you will not refuse sex from you on a very regular basis. This is poor form, and Boyfriend really needs to wake up and smell the coffee that THINGS ARE MORE OKAY NOW, BACK THE FUCK OFF, YOURE NOT NEEDED. I have a friend who often makes himself go to social outings, because hes noticed the pattern within himself that he usually feels like bailing and not going when an event is about to happen, but if he makes himself go, he usually has a good time and is glad that he did. Maybe your boyfriend can learn different ways of responding to you and learn how to respect your stated wishes without requiring to justify them. One of our deepest needs as humans is to feel understood, and true understanding is not possible without empathy. Theres a degree to which each partner does handle their own issues, but also an extent to which partners work together to help each other. Not many people at soup kitchens are gonna want to hear Dude mansplain to them how they can improve their lives. He then said that he was only trying to make her into a better person. Do you want to be like my mum, self esteem completely destroyed, fleeing an abusive 30 year relationship from someone who always thought you were not good enough? And you dont either, no matter what your boyfriend says. Yeah, the LWs boyfriends words sound like the very worst of my jerkbrains words. If you are depressed, and your partner likes and loves you, and wants to help you with care and recovery, theres a real risk theyll become frustrated and upset when presented with evidence that progress isnt happening. Dont. Please dont give me advice unless I ask you directly.. Thats one form of love, I think: trusting the other person enough to let go and let them figure it out on their own. 14. For a relationship to survive a crisis like that, you have to like the person (not just love them) and respect the person (not just love them). When youre happy and interesting, youll find yourself meeting new people and having the opportunity to explore all kinds of different relationships not just romantic ones! He wanted to call the shots. Taking emotions out of decision making is actually a highly irrational approach. 6. I found it odd at first that my marriage broke up after I got to feeling better through therapy (by my measure and my therapists.) Id still be loved (and unhassled!!) I am a very logically-minded person who has come to the conclusion that acting as though human beings are robots is a profoundly illogical thing to do. So this guy is trying everything he can to fix the LWbut since depression makes people act against their best interests, the boyfriend doesnt trust said LW to deal with this on their own. This, again, is part of why we dont have a good relationship). She cares a lot. 1. Stating your boundaries might just bring his own discomfort into the open. depression, chronic pain, fatigue, whatever is hindering you], you just keep going on and work through it. *grinds teeth* Not. Whoa, this is me a year/two years/three years ago. If a guy doesnt offer to pay, he doesnt care about impressing you. For example, they might mad that you didnt fold the laundry when you said you would, or frustrated at coming home to find you in bed asleep with your clean, untouched gym clothes on the bed, when you said you were going to work out. This is not one of them. It doesnt sound like you two ever consensually negotiated a relationship with unequal roles and a power imbalance, nor does it sound like what you want. As I was reading the original letter, I was thinking that the question ought to be how to break up with him. But now, today, you have already exercised. It sounds as though its not simply a case of dump him, because that can be hard, especially when youre trying to sustain a healing process. How does this affect you will work on a reasonable person. A lot of times he may have hinted you before that there was something that bothered him. As a result, I let him pick most of our destinations for dates, because I wasnt going to invite him someplace and then push him to pay for me. I agree with all of the above regarding logic. Texting my buddies to see if they are doing something, anything, I can join up with and get out of this situation. This is all controlling behavior, and maybe turning abusive. LW, your story really, really made the back hairs of my neck stand up. Dont be accusatory or judgmental when you do this. Maybe I can step on fewer landmines by keeping it in mind. (To be fair, hes gotten *much* better.). For those of us with less than optimal upbringings theres this stinger waiting for us as adults. That creates tremendous pressure on you and just makes you feel shitty about yourself. Your bf is trying to make you break up with him. It sounds terrible. But in my experience, the kind of mindset that prides itself on being reasonable and feels comfortable saying thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard to ANYTHING their loved one says. I saw progress though, and it made it easier to wade though until it was resolved. Invoking logic by name in a discussion. It was tough (and frankly weird) for a bit, but he stopped and were fine. Yes. anyone who doesnt think youre good enough does not deserve you. And if hes not interested in investigating ways to help you were back to Case A: Raging Arsehole. I could write something very similar, except were only at 20 years. You know, thatd taste better if you gave it 15 seconds in the microwave., Ive asked him to stop trying to get me to change, that you cant change other people, but he refuses to accept that, to the point that he says its the stupidest thing hes ever heard. And whats wrong with your alphabet, here, let me prioritize those letters for you. What kind of phrases should I NOT say? When your boyfriend stops showing physical affection like kissing, hugging, touching or sex, it can be a sign that he has lost romantic interest in you and is thinking of leaving. My BF was genuinely not a bad guy. He wasnt quite as patronizing, but he did have a tendency to give me the same advice over and over. Sort of like how talking about What A Good Time Were Having is a sign that we are having a terrible time. I had already tried eight bazillion types of tea. And it is reasonable to want people who are important in your life to be supportive and helpful. I agree! this bit has me almost crying. you arent going to get better if he keeps breathing down your neck.. Like, there are healthy relationships where both people agree to certain situations where person A asks to be prompted to do X and person B does so. I am so mad at you for having cancer! See the problem? I dont know. Not that I recommend my way. Again, fine line. A lot of the time, people feel like they need a Big Serious Reason (like I caught him bonking my sister or he burned my entire book collection then peed on the ashes) to dump someone. But when theres anger, that flips the whole dynamic on its head. A lot of writing (calling, whatever) to advice people seems to be this. I generally figure that a persons issues are their own, and what they choose to do (or not) about them is their own decision. He wants me to exercise more, eat healthier, help out more with the cleaning, and take better care of myself. LW, Im so sorry youre dealing with this. It didnt! So now I absolutely have all these weird shame issues around food, which is probably why I could barely eat around my various romantic partners for yearsits just a crappy thing to do to anyone. Your boyfriends reaction to those scripts will tell you whether this relationship is worth keeping, or whether its time to move on. If LWs partner isnt interested in learning and compromising, then it seems to me it will be hard to continue with a healthy relationship. In graduate school, there were entire weeks where all I ate was a huge wheel of frosted sugar cookies. We both are very logic- and reason-focused people .Not both of you. I have two of those exes and there my collection ends! Cant get to the I want? So if he has stopped watching everyone's stories, then he might be truly breaking free from social media. Of course you want him to make an effort to wine and dine you; his time, effort, and energy shows he cares about you. Dear LW, I have an ex my friend refers to as The Physical Manifestation of MellifluousDissents (Formerly) Low Self-Esteem. I suspect this b/f may belong to that club as well. But really nothing in that letter sounds like a happy, healthy time. Thats right, mind your own business.* Asking how it affects him could give him an opener for a feelingsdump, and I wouldnt want LW put in the position of feeling like she has to manage his feelings about what she does with her own body. Hindsight, sigh. He then believes that if you simply were to do the right things then he would get what he wants. Oh god, my parents did that toothey made fun of my (snack) food choices all the time, which was severely hypocritical as they were the ones who taught me that that behavior was absolutely not okay (when directed towards an adult). OK, so let us assume for a moment that your boyfriend is not actually a Raging Arsehole whos trying to create his own Stepford Girlfriend, and that he genuinely is trying to help you. Controlling never helps this situation, taking care of me and then helping him as he asks to be helped is what helps this situation. Its just really hard to take that final step sometimes, and back off, but its exactly what I need to do. LW, if you want the thoughts of a former terrible girlfriend, mine are: Your boyfriend isnt concerned about you. Some people even go on partial social media detox by simply using them for messaging, on the other hand avoiding watching people's stories. He may be feeling like he is missing out on his life and it is time to get back into the single life. I said You know, a lot of the time people do what they want in the moment & dont think it through, especially when theyre having powerful emotional impulses. He was like well that way of life doesnt make sense. Someone struggling is not an automatic invitation to step in and run their lives for them. Knowing that fucking up around him was something forgivable (or something which didnt need forgiving) meant I felt braver about trying new things because failing wasnt so terrible an outcome. He always wants to know the reasons behind them (which admittedly is sometimes frustrating), because he wants to know, not because he wants to prove Why I Am Wrong. Hell get mad if he thinks that Im not exercising often enough []. Well, I mean, as someone who prefers her boys on the skinny side, it is totally true that everyone gets to have preferences. That stupidest thing Ive ever heard bit set off major alarm bells for me, too. i got a screw driver thing and tried to force the switch witih t; I have a hp 2000 notebook pc and the touch pad and cursor aren`t letting me click on things but the cursor does move? He is actively undermining your success and your ability to feel safe, loved, and healthy. Listen respectfully and be open to talking about his feelings. Apologise, and never say that to me again.. Another vote that you are not strange! He seems to have set up this power imbalance in the relationship where he is right and the one to be listened to and you are the one who needs to be told what to do and that makes me very uncomfortable. When I am at home, I just need to chill out. Heres some signs your relationship is over in all but name and Facebook status: It may seem like a good thing if you and your man never fight, but take it from a dude I never want to be wrong. Feelings of shame and guilt. See what happens when you do, how you feel, how he reacts. Bottom line is the conversation . Good luck LW, positive thoughts your way! LW, as someone who struggles with depression with a spouse who struggles with depression, heres what concerns me about your letter: Your boyfriend is expecting you to be accountable to a list of tasks hes set, rather than treating you with compassion and helping you help yourself. And they dont need to be The Worst for you to decide you dont want to be in this relationship anymore. Im so disappointed in you. That means I dont want to run my food intake by you any more., To be absolutely clear, you should not have to justify any of this, and you are not the one making it weird by setting boundaries here. I like it on toasted cinnamon-raisin bread. Give him some space to take care of his things and do what he needs to do before you start making demands on how much time he should be spending with you or expecting that your relationship will always come first every single time without question. Its hard to cuddle with someone you just arent connected to. The hurt and pain are felt by both people involved, but if your ex regrets what happened, they might be looking to get a reaction out of you. Getty Images The Redditor wrote: "So I stopped him saying I'd appreciate. What then should you do when your boyfriend stops making an effort? Absolutely. until I stop caring. This is why I only see him in person on a time limited basis and call him on the phone and have been known to hang up on him when he does this kind of policing. Value to him also includes your offering of feminine energy and responsiveness, your surrender to connection moment by moment (which helps deepen your connection and renew his deep attachment to you). This is a good question for a conversation with your boyfriend if indeed thats what has been going on! 2010 The Thought & Expression Company, LLC. In another car. 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