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not have the latest software. The hardcore BMW fan base could not help but fall in love with the spritely performance offered by this upgraded engine. and The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. and as necessary Page 2 of 4 Ive change engine mount, spark plug, coil but problem is the same. Code 131401 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS exhaust cold start not controllable, Your problem could be a programming issue or it could could both vanos units as per sib bulletin 12 14 12, Hello, I replaced the oil filter, inspected the oil filter basket and the green O ring at the bottom. Direksiyon kilidi/Kontak alteri BMW paralar 47738. 61 00 730 Refer to KSD2 Programming/encoding control unit(s) Thank you again. Problem is, mine arent locked. Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. Thanks. I don't drive the car very aggressively, however i noticed that it didn't pull as hard as it used to a couple of days leading to the drivetrain malfunction. It possible a software issue,,,we have seen that before. The tensioner sometime start to malfunctioning due to lack of motor oil (it is actioned by the oil pressure). The intake cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0/-8, -20/-20, -10.4/-10, -20/-20 and -10.4/-10. I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. Everything works, radio, windows, Locks. I checked the timing chain, it looks fine. JavaScript is disabled. Please advice me how can I go about with the local dealer? Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. All wiring lines are good. Hi, I recently bought a 2012 X1 xDrive28i. I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. 3. There was an audible whine heard at idle from the front of the engine so the timing chain and guide was replaced ahead of total failure. Thank you, Rev match I say problem. With the VANOS solenoids removed, the spring loaded VANOS spool valve moved in and out easily. only be fixed if it seems like my car will experience the issue (like if they hear the rattling noise that commenters have mentioned/you replied about. Yes that crack in the timing chain guide should be enough to replace the timing chain and guide rails,,,,the way we decide if the car is covered is by whine noise,rattle noise,broken pieces of timing chain guide,,,how before we get the extended warranty that is hard to say,,,it all depends on the legal side of the lawsuit Im sorry to say. It is really a shame that BMW does not communicate on the subject, especially since here in Europe the problem is not repeated while in the United States it seems widespread. The oil filter element appears to collapsed / sucked in at the center. 2011 BMW 535i [0.00] 535i drivertrain malfunction. When the VANOS solenoids were removed for testing I checked the marks I made on the VANOS impulse wheels and on the harmonic balancer and they looked perfect. The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! Ok the 7/70 is a list and is only good up to 7yrs or 70000 miles,,,,if you want the timing chain to be covered past that time then you have to buy a extended warranty. I thinks it just some random fault that comes up. Ive been told by dealership that timing chain is tight and has passed their test. 108f01 Ill check my gas cap but I need to clear this code. December 2013 Yesterday I did get all the fault codes cleared. 2: 12A701 Catalytic converter downstream oxygen sensor, electrical fault: circuit short to battery (+) What's even more exciting about the N20 engine is that this four-cylinder engine is capable of generating a stunning power of 240 HP and a sizzling torque of 260 lb-ft. During a recent oil change & tire rotation service visit, my regular BMW service establishment (non-dealership) let me know my timing chain was loose and I should get it checked out at the local BMW dealership. It should show something like incorrect angle/position. There were no faults. But the list post on this forum shows E84 X1 xDrive28i with N20 is a recall! Hello again, hope you having great day!! Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. Coasting to a stop the engine suddenly died and would not restart. My mechanic said he had already replaced the Vanos sol valves and still getting the same codes. Page 3 of 4 You are correct almost all the problem are in the States,,,all the engines are built in the same plant,,,there is a good chance that the fuel is the cause of these problems,,,,yes it is a good thing your car is not on the list. It looks like the car is on this recall list. Id rather not pay more money. Learn how your comment data is processed. and it seems like they are about to settle this case on 9/2/2020. The car started fine the first time and every time since. 130304 Even if the engine is warm it still gives these same fault codes. N20 Vanos Solenoid Valve BMW tech info says the cams need to be locked down to remove the Vanos valve. Did you ever solve this? The ticking noise is normal on all N20 engine during cold start and then it get quieter when it warms up,,,what Im more worried about if the car has a whining noise and also trying to get the timing chain and rails replaced under BMW extended warranty. has reduced power output. I personally know of one person that had a total loss on their X1 engine in Saskatchewan back in 2016 before BMW Canada acknowledged a widespread issue with the timing chain on the N20. For information on programming and coding with ISTA/P, refer to Connecting rods are 144.35 mm long. Just need to clear the check engine light. Turbo engines are more complex and require several . BMW wont tell us why some models have problems and some dont,,,,it could be because of horsepower,,,,,you could replace tensioner if you want,,,,,it wouldnt hurt anything, Thanks for the reply i think its 220i and 320i uses the exact engine N20 my F22 2014 car now has 105000kms since its not in the list , in general what do u advice me to do shall i just keep my ears alerted to sounds or u advise me to take to service center and maintain the chain so i can save the engine ? 01-18-2020, 01:07 PM #2 mandd Autobahn East Join Date Having the same. with the following integration levels: Since the picture was taken by me not by the dealer. 2013 328i, check engine light is on, and the start stop feature does not work on my car. Thank you in advance. Hey, I have a 2014 BMW 428i (F32 with an N20 engine) it is just under 70k around 61,000 I believe and it looks like it was manufactured in 9/2013. 120408: Boost pressure control, cut off pressure rise blocked. https://youtu.be/Frj0a82XfDo, He did not notice any whining- but do you hear whining in this second video? Replace the solenoid that the code followed. Bringing the BMW community together. DME. 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. He said the technician found this out by putting a scope in the engine but didnt explain it any further, nor did he address what the diagnostic code was for the sensor being on. The Service Engine Soon lamp and Engine Malfunction warning are illuminated, and the vehicle The spark plug have nothing to do with this problem,,,,they would cause misfires,,,I would think you should get some kind of signal from camshaft angle,,,,are you sure everything is plugged in correctly, Hello, My exhaust cam is retarding to the most far point , I time the engine with kit, locking crank, cam shaft and vanos. But one of the passages might have had some trash in it. I know there has been a lot of people complaining to BMW NA about this problem,,,I think there is a case where people are trying to sue BMW over the timing chain issue,,,one of the problems is none of the other BMW have this problem only the N20-N26. 131908-VANOS inlet: cold start, Position not reached. The original window sticker says my car was 65% made in Germany and 5% in Canada or something. ISTA says these errors: as side note I had everything marked and verified all marks lined up when put together . possible oil pump chain broken? But that is all. New chain and guides and so far no problems. What should I do next? CAUSE I manually crank engine over few time but after start it always goes retarded on exhaust cam shaft. Hi I live in California and im planning to buy a used 2015 bmw x3 xDrive28i (F25) then I saw the this post. Would there be a difference between our 2 continents with regard to production? everything in the vehicle works extremely well. Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. The crank pin to hold at TDC goes through the tiny hole pointing to the rear of the car by the catalytic converter, the only thing this would be able to hold onto would be the flex plate/flywheel. There can typically be a ton of different. This could be a fuel issue,,,but BMW is not saying anything about the problem. The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty applies to BMW CPO vehicles that are still Recently purchased 2104 BMW X1 28i x drive. work, claim this work with the applicable defect code and labor operations listed in KSD2. They look ok. Do you think it can be a ECU or software related issue? Hi, SHAME ON BMW!!!!! Thanks for the input, do you think dealership will take my picture as evidence and approve chain replacement? The exhaust cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0.6/-9, 20/17, 11/9, 20/17. The connector may have a removable cover. This is due to a diagnostic programming error in the DME. check got vanos dtc come to relies i switch the cam gears when i install them so i correct it after veh cranks but no start check timming over like 3 time it good. This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? Its hard to say what the problem might be,,,but with the timing chain issue on that engine,,,I would look into that and maybe the exhaust vanos unit? Note that the desired angle was constant. Yann Wehrling, vice-prsident de la rgion le-de-France, charg de la Transition cologique, et Patrice Leclerc, maire de Gennevilliers et Prsident du groupe Front De Gauche la . (not including CAS) Tried to read live camshaft sensors read ista says that currenty no data is sent from them to DME. Do you think is this something related to eccentric shaft sensor? If I reach my finger in through oil filler cap with the engine off and cold, is it normal for there to be some slack in the timing chain on an N20? I had 2014 328i and having no issue yet so far,but im concern about the timing chain since my car is on the list of having problems with the timing chain,i checked the vin number to see if there is a recall for that and did not see anything,what should i do to double check ?should i go to dealership and just tell them about this bulleti? 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence I dont know if failing VANOS system should give any data to computer and should show somekind bad data or shouldnt show anything. Emissions Warranty coverage that applies. Earlier this week I took my 2012 328i to dealership because check engine light came on. Ok the charge boost pressure fault is related to the vanos faults,,,,the vanos faults could be a couple of things but since you just replaced the timing chain maybe the timing is not correct on the intake vanos unit? Or do you think its just possible plastic bits of junk in the sump pump pick up? also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? if you can direct me in the right path I will really appreciated . still the same problem. Looking forward to the return of your blog. BMW INTAKE VANOS ACTUATOR SOLENOID LOCATION REPLACEMENT EXPLAINED F30 F31 F32 F33 F34 428i 328i 320i 420i 418i 318i 316iIf you are trying to find where the i. But, it will need to be adjusted and tested properly using genuine BMW software. Please help! VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. for this problem there is a software update available. I bought 2012 X1 with 85,000km and after reading different posts makes me worried about the timing chain issue, I called the dealer they said there is no recall on this vehicle except driver side air bag! Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164466 Mfg#: 11377603979KT5 Qty: Availability: In Stock $243.84 Add to Cart Free Shipping on orders $59 and up Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164462 Mfg#: My car have no error code, product 4/2012 with no tune. Covered under the terms of the BMW New Car/SAV Limited Warranty or the BMW Certified Pre- Brought it to a second mechanic. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Defect Code: 11 36 01 96 00 Code 131501 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS intake cold start- not controllable E84 and E89 The update can only be done at the dealer,,,you will only need a update if there is some kind of BMW recall on software or if at anytime your car might need some other repair which might call for a update for the repairs.,,,your 2009 is a lot older system,,,that car is like Windows XP compared to Windows 10,,,,lol,,,there's a big difference both Got it replaced for half of the price in warranty, consider also the timing chain replace if needed. check out the. Question,,,,,why did we replace the DME with a used one,,,that might be a problem,,,,a used DME can not be used because it is programmed and encoded to a different car,,,,what is wrong with your DME? I would go to the dealer and have the engine scanned to see what fault came up,,,better to be safe then sorry. I dont know how serious this is,,,but your mechanic is right to remove the valve cover and inspect the timing chain and guide rails,,,,if that is ok the check the exhaust vanos unit and intake vanos units,,,,your faults are for the exhaust side,,,the boost charge fault is due to the exhaust vanos faults. Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.50.4 or higher. If one of the applicable faults listed above is stored in the DME then continue with the No I dont think it is covered,,,and what lifetime of the vehicle are you talking about. Did they use a different timing chain guide before 06/2012 ? The engine was idling when it happened. Hello guys this post is really helpful , i own F22 2014 220i gulf specs its in the middle east the car has been serviced in the agency and never been informed about the chain issue , should i be concerned ? Only in eco or comfort mode when I drive carefully or just keeping a normal speed at low rpm. Learn how your comment data is processed. Thanks for responding. Thanks again. Technical Service Andrea, I just found your blog looking for answers for my used/ new to me 2013 328i with N20 engine. Then I used ISTA and diagnosed the exhaust side. The car has 176,000 kilometers or roughly 110,000 miles. I appreciate any input. to performing repairs, please see SI B01 02 11 for Emissions Warranty Coverage and refer to the The problem could be caused by the fuel destroying the plastic guide. The old oil filter was stuck onto the basket. And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. Ok Ill do that. I have maintained it meticulously. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Any help would be appreciated My 320i with N20 engine have problem with light accelerator or cruise on hightway, about 1.100-1450 rpm.Engine noise u u u like weve a drone around and with little vibration on steering. Entdecken Sie SKF VKMA38227 Keilrippenriemensatz Keilriemen Satz Keilriemensatz fr BMW in der groen Auswahl bei eBay. Im going to trade. Stop and starting the car there is no difference. Cleared the code, and restarted the engine, within . 'nhUO}gFXA}_+7"F.\ztVw@%/`>vny#(`YN:2ed_zI.. N20 vanos unit broken Posted on April 6, 2016 by bmwtechnician Ok here's another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. It has never been in an accident and the body is in excellent shape. Its a bit like on the list, the block of 20i and 28i is quite close, so why one seems more impacted than the other (the higher torque?). should I buy timing lock kit to lock the cams and cranksshaft in place? Now also Im sitting 3 months over then 7/70 mark! You could replace the tensioner if you like,,,you should be ok since your car was probably built in 2015.,,,,you could ask your local dealership on what they think about your car and the timing chain issue. Yes go to the dealership and tell them about the issue and the bulletin. Good day. Most likely you have broken timing chain guides and the whole timing set will need to be replaced. Last question- if it is a failing timing chain- is this a something best repaired in a couple weeks, or do I have a few months. Changed the solenoid valves. Charging pressure control: Switch-off as consequence New battery installed. no dtc but it complete its combustion cycle i check for spark, fuel and compression was reading ok on all 4 cylinder but there black smoke and strong gas smell out the exhaust.I allso found wire harness for dinantronics box which is pigger back to DME was rubbing under the eng. Required fields are marked *. Looks all good. I assume that the f31 328i RW could also be affected ? I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. Just replaced timing chain and oil pump module on n20 13 528i xdrive. 131401 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust cold start not controllable They unlock only when oil pressure is applied. Hello and thank you for your various articles on the n20 engine. I've done exactly the same thing and caused this issue by replacing the timing chain tensioner. 2008 BMW 128I [0.00] Check engine light DTC 131501. but after 3-4 minutes these fault codes with a message -Drivetrain problem comes in the display. Question,,,what is a DME clone,,,,is it a used DME?,,,,or a aftermarket replacement DME. and if necessary, also The fuel pump tank pressure is good when i check but when i read the data for fuel rail its very low and drop right back to 0.. Car start very well but no power and check engine light on code po52b. So for the E89 Z4 only the 28i N20 powered model is affected and not the 20i sDrive? Specific eligible repairs may also be covered by the terms of the Federal, State or BMW Emissions Cost for the strap $7.49. Or anything else you have come across? I got this issue and luckily BMW covered it 100%. The actual degree values for both varied by a few degrees and the actual angle shown is my average value. 131908 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached Think I'll avoid this. Hi Im wondering do I need to have a 7/70 warranty to get BMW cover for this problem? Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. Hello question I have 428xi n26 sulev f32 and I was looking at my key reader report and where it says Software version/updates section: I-level current integration level of vehicle F020-19-07-539. The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty applies to BMW CPO vehicles that are still Fingers crossed!! The BMW N20 is a 4-cylinder, turbocharged engine produced from 2011-2017, and was BMW's replacement for the naturally aspirated 3.0L 6-cylinder N52/N53 engines. Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. Reply Quote. If one of the applicable faults listed above is not stored in the DME fault memory then continue It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. 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